Welcome to the International Class Association website for the RS Aero. Here you will find all there is to know about the RS Aero including the latest news, how to register your boat, and links to relevant documents.

home
news
the boat
gallery
movies
forum
membership
documents
boat registration


Please Register or Login to post to the forum.
Home >> Technical >> Over deck control line tails
18/09/2020 19:17:00

RobertEngland
Posts: 64
Maybe. See what I can do. 




Reply
16/09/2020 11:10:00

Andy Butler
Posts: 19
Have you got a photo of this arrangement?




Reply
13/09/2020 22:48:00

Peter Barton
Posts: 2937
Hi Robert, 
No need to apologise to me, it is all personal preference.
I am interested in your idea of not using a shockcord tidy.
Ultimately they are only tails, so as long as it works then minimisation for simplicity and lightness is beneficial.. 




Reply
13/09/2020 14:54:00

RobertEngland
Posts: 64
PS: Thanks to Matt Thursfield who was instrumental in advising me to ditch the system as currently supplied with new boats (apologies to Pete Barton for such insurrection)




Reply
13/09/2020 13:00:00

RobertEngland
Posts: 64
Personally, I prefer the very early method people used when converting to over-deck controls. Just use rings (or Ronstan 5mm shocks if preferred) secured to the through deck holes. You can make righting handles under the gunwhales as in Marc’s video too. Don’t change the original plan for which cleat serves outhaul or downhaul on each side as the cleats are aligned with left and right sides of the mast so you will save some friction by keeping to the original design. Do swap the double, bottom downhaul block with two singles to save more friction. 

Send the outhaul control lines straight across the deck from side to side as in the version 2 plans on the RS site. 

Take the downhaul lines forward through a strong ring  or shock led from a line round the bottom of the mast. The supplied control line on new boats is just long enough to do this with a 40cm splice as in the Rooster video quoted below. The position of this ring or shock can be adjusted to limit the upward movement of the downhaul so don’t cut it off too soon!

Notice that NO SHOCKCORD TIDY IS USED. This is important. You will be able to let off big lumps of downhaul as you approach the windward mark without fighting the pullback from the standard elastic tidying device. 

If you find you have loose line in the water on the lee side when the downhaul is on just grab the nearest bit, pull it through the shock or ring near the mast and chuck it on the deck. Still too much? Adjust the length of line attached to the mast base. You can even pull on downhaul through the far side cleat via the ring or shock attached to the mast provided it is strong enough (and you are sitting on the windward one! ) 

Worth considering!




Reply
22/07/2020 08:46:00

Andy Butler
Posts: 19
This is the link to Marc's video in case the youtube link in his post doesn't work for others.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtsjrtcXI6k
 
Thanks for posting it Marc. 




Reply
21/07/2020 20:12:00

heymatey
Posts: 27
I'm still contemplating the set-up of my new boat, but will probably copy Eric Aker's downhaul rigging (see pic). It's very clean, allows plenty of throw to retract the tail reliably, and keeps the retraction blocks to the side and off the deck so boats don't get scratched/damaged when stacked for travel.

I'll replace the bullet blocks shown with Ronstan 5mm sheaveless blocks to save weight.

The line that comes standard with the boat is of good quality and has a nice hand, but it doesn't flow through the blocks as smoothly as Rooster EasySplice.

Here's a video to illustrate (I had to make a video since adding picture attachments is difficult on this site).

Marc Jacobi




Reply
20/07/2020 13:07:00

Mauricio
Posts: 3
Hey Marc - do you have pictures of how you setup the take up? I would love to set that up as I have extra line for the out haul and when I let the down haul go most times it just stays 




Reply
24/05/2020 20:03:00

Michael Heber
Posts: 24
And here is a video:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv959thfpIk 




Reply
24/05/2020 20:01:00

Michael Heber
Posts: 24
I just spliced them yesterday. I got an instruction manual from RS for this.
 
https://www.rssailingstore.com/files//4385ebcf-86f7-46ae-996c-a99200cf4aee/Aero%20instructions%20-%20OVER%20DECK%20CONTROL%20LINES%20(ROOSTER).pdf 
 
In the guide v6 it is not explained, how to splice it. My guide ha the name "Over Deck Control Lines V2" 
 
I would also prefer splicing. 




Reply
24/05/2020 09:58:00

Claire
Posts: 3
I am setting up a new boat and have the rope pack that comes with it. This now has the control lines overdeck as standard but says to whip the two ends of the lines together. I assume splicing these would be a better option? Are there any instructions on how best to do this?




Reply
23/05/2020 18:46:00

Andy Butler
Posts: 19
Just echoing the request for any photos of the "less cluttered" version.  Anyone out there got any? 




Reply
15/04/2020 21:09:00

Yotter/Robin Gray
Posts: 6
Another candidate for over deck controls here - was going to go the Rooster route using a couple of stainless steel rings instead of the Ronstan Shocks. Any problems with this?  Have also got a couple of small kite blocks lying around which I could use - again any comments good or bad.  Keen to see what a more simplified layout looks like.  Definitely photos please if possible or a more detailed description or diagram - mind you no rush at the moment for obvious reasons. :) Bought the boat in late November and have managed to get sailing on six occasions before lockdown - bursting to go sailing . . . . .




Reply
14/04/2020 23:49:00

Aero2823
Posts: 3
Is anyone able to post some photographs of this setup?




Reply
14/04/2020 14:21:00

AnneKochen
Posts: 3
Hi, I also prefer the less cluttered setup like Marc. I had the Rooster standard setup and changed it. I  started with  7m for outhaul and 9m for cunningham of Rooster easysplice. I set it up and after seeing how much I needed, I Cut a little off and then spliced it.




Reply
14/04/2020 00:48:00

heymatey
Posts: 27
I highly recommend the less-cluttered setup. We sail in light wind a lot, and having blocks by the traveler sure makes things uncomfortable! Both my downhaul and outhaul lines have shockcord take-ups, but next time around I'll skip it for the outhaul and just have the line go side-to-side across the deck. 

Sorry I don't have lengths. When setting our systems up, we bought a lot of line and initially tied the ends together. After sailing with the systems that way, it was easy to determine lengths before splicing. If anything, err long!

I also recommend leading the downhaul through the forward side-deck cleats on *both* sides, with the outhaul in the aft cleats (outhaul is adjusted less frequently and requires less pulling than the downhaul). Use different color lines to make it easier to distinguish between the two. Rooster's EasySplice line works well in this application.

Marc Jacobi




Reply
13/04/2020 18:14:00

PJT
Posts: 6
Hi fellow aeronauts,
I'm going to change my aero to overdeck controls and have seen a few variations in photos online.  The 'standard' one seems to be the Rooster approach with the two small blocks attached to the traveller eye.  I've also seen one without these where both cunningham and outhaul looking like they go staight up to a eye on a length of elastic.  I must admit that the second one looks less cluttered etc but I can't find any details on lengths of control line etc.  Can anyone share?
Thanks
Phil




Reply


RS Aero

RS Sailing

Contact

RS Aero International Class Association
E. Email


RS Sailing
Premier Way
Abbey Park
Romsey
Hampshire
SO51 9DQ

T. 00 44 (0)1794 526 760
W. www.rssailing.com
E. Email

Developed & Supported by YorkSoft Ltd