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23/03/2017 12:24:55

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
USA Speed Contest - The Columbia Gorge, Oregon, August 2016 
Here are the top speeds from last summer's Speed Contest during the USA National Champs at Cascade Locks.
At the very end of the day the breeze was tailing off so that the speeds were not overly high but these were the fastest sailors that day;
 
 
Hank Saurage of Louisiana topped the day with 13.5kn - beating all the RS Aero 9s in his RS Aero 7!
 
 
Top RS Aero 9 and 2nd overall was Graham Vaughan of Seattle, Washington, with 13.3kn
 
 
Fastest Lady was Catherine Gloster of Santa Barbara, California, posting an 11.1kn in the day's conditions in her RS Aero 7.
 
 
Ross Tokmakian of Sacremento, California, was top of the RS Aero 5s that day with a 10.2kn.
 
Full details of the 2016 USA Speed Challenge HERE 
 




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20/03/2017 23:56:45

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
RS AERO SPEED FREAKS 2017 
We have seen a quiet winter on the speed front with a very calm winter in the UK and other regions either calm or too cold. However the fresh spring breezes and warmer temperatures are certainly here and it is time to re-launch the GPS speed contest!

I propose that we run this seasons contest until the 1st July when we will call an end to this Speed Season's contest and move our focus onto the main events. So you have over three months to get rumbling!
New speeds since April 2016 will be included and the new list will be added to the previous list with the new additions highlighted.
 
- Everyone can add a new speed, even if already on the previous list. Each sailor can submit an entry for each rig (can do 3 new entries)
- This is an informal contest. Simply post a photo of your speed recording and cheesy grin to the forum thread here with a short summary (conditions, wind strength, which rig, humour welcome). For top end speeds some good evidence of a reliable track without 'spike' readings will be required.

Last season's RS Aero Speed Ladder can be found here;
http://www.rsaerosailing.org/index.asp?p=news&nid=10677




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20/03/2017 22:31:34

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
RS Aero 9! 
Screen shot from Dion's video of 19 March at McGee Beach, Corpus Christi, Texas, USA.  
Shows 17.3kn (20mph) at 0:25 and again at 0:34 where he is near that speed for a while with no 'spike'.
Bumpy water! 
 
 




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20/03/2017 22:21:52

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Screen shot from Chunky's video of 19 March at Northampton, UK.
Shows 20kn at 1:15 and you can see a nice steady increase to it, with no 'spike'.
Wind speed mid 30kns, gusting. RS Aero 7.
 
 
 
 




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20/03/2017 16:30:32

Chunky
Posts: 94
Its windy season again, yay...




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19/03/2017 20:32:45

Birdman
Posts: 6
14 knots today at Lymington with the 5 rig, blowing 20 with 25 - 30 knots gusts. If it had been flat, I think I could have got a little higher.




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29/05/2016 19:50:53

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Ash Beatty (Texas, USA) has let us know of Hank Saurage moving up the Speed Freak standings this weekend with this run May 27 on Lake Pontchatrain, New Orleans.
Best Speed n¡1 = 27.55km/h [14.88Knots] (15.3 meters in 2.0 sec.)
Best Speed n¡2 = 27.12km/h [14.64Knots] (15.1 meters in 2.0 sec.)
Best Speed n¡3 = 26.8km/h [14.47Knots] (14.9 meters in 2.0 sec.)
Best Speed n¡4 = 26.36km/h [14.23Knots] (14.6 meters in 2.0 sec
[Thanks Ash]
 
Hank (Louisiana, USA) reports;  'Next time out in that kind of wind I'm going to the south shore where the water is flat. The north shore had big waves...25 miles of open water to build up. It was rough!'




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19/04/2016 19:20:05

Aerostar1610
Posts: 6
Brian, glad to see that my post reached you. Here is a thought on verifying what you did. Go out in the RIB with your son and bring a GPS and run it up to what he saw on the speedo and compare notes. You looked to be doing every bit of 20 plus to me so it would be fun to find out what it might have really been as a number. How does that sound? 😉  Cheers! Greg




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19/04/2016 11:49:14

Brian
Posts: 20
Thanks Greg for the accolades and support, these Aero's sure are proving a whole lot of fun.
I must confirm though that I wasn't doing over 20 knots. My 13 year old son gets a bit carried away reading the speedo on our rib and its accuracy would be highly questionable.
I do find the boat brilliant at high speed and very skiff like, once the boat is going fast, when more wind hits just ease the main 6 inches, turn the boat down a little and it just keeps getting faster. If the breeze drops a little reverse the above procedure to maximise boat speed until the next gust arrives.
With our regattas all out of the way and Winter bearing down on us down under I'll now have a go at clocking some speeds in the flat water of Corio Bay.
Chunky's speed is way out there so I'll give him that but I'd love to beat 20 knots. Stand by.




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19/04/2016 03:24:20

Cliff
Posts: 46
I don't have a video or a photo but last Saturday I touched 11.45 knots in an Aero 5. The Garmin track is here https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1127530432 




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12/04/2016 20:02:22

Aerostar1610
Posts: 6
Per the rules of engagement not eligible for official recognition but I believe very worthy of mention is Brian Case's long run in a 7 pursued by a group of Opti sailors running a RIB. Presumptively they did have a GPS as in the You Tube video of his runs you hear them call out 25 knots then 29 miles per hour, then an even higher speed. Regardless of the specific accuracy of the declared speeds, what is really impressive is the duration and level of control that Brian demonstrates; I should hope to have as steady a presence in winds of that velocity. I congratulate all those who have recorded impressive speeds and look ahead to soon also being a member of the "speeders club." Cheers! Greg




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12/04/2016 10:18:18

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
RS AERO SPEED FREAKS - SUMMARY
 
It is nearly a year now since we kicked off our International GPS Speed Challenge and with all the activity, time now for a summary!
 
The GPS Challenge has proven great fun and helped keep us entertained when it is too windy for racing. Read all about it here;
 
http://www.rsaerosailing.org/index.asp?p=news&nid=10677




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11/04/2016 23:04:06

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
 
On Sunday when racing was cancelled on the coast, Emily Davis set sail at a very gusty Great Moor in Middle England. Unusually she rigged her ‘7’ up, rather than her normal 5, so that she could match her brother in his new boat. Sporting her new onboard camera with built in GPS she thought little of her 13.9kn (16mph) - but that does in fact make her The Fastest Lady on the Planet! (known recorded)

Emily reports;
'...this was my top speed today, in the 7 to keep my brother James Walters company, hard work for me as the wind was so shifty and monster gusts, impossible to sail well upwind but down wind was fun! thought it should have been faster though given daughter clocked 12mph in the tera last week! (slightly more wind though)'




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07/03/2016 09:06:10

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
AUSTRALIA open their speed account...
Ron Fergusson reports from the south side of Port Philip Bay, Victoria...
 
Sailed at Portarlington today, lovely little club, very nice people, someone even made me a lovely chicken roll even though no galley was in operation ☺.
Interesting short course racing with a strong sea breeze kicked in:
Found I didn't have the weight (75 kg) to hang over the side to quite keep up with the Impulse, but had the edge off the wind.
Mostly flat water with the sea breeze coming over the Bellarine Peninsula, very gusty and shifty, quite a blast.
Top speed 28.95 kph (15.6 knots) off the wind with the boat just starting to hum, just after conclusion of racing - not a patch on the current UK record of 23 plus knots - but gee it's a heap of fun☺
 




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04/03/2016 19:53:19

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
pic by Kev Hall  
23.9KN - THE 20+KN CLUB IS NOW OPEN!
Not only has the 20kn barrier been broken but our Webmaster, Anthony 'Chunky' York, has absolutely smashed it with an outstanding 23.9kn.
 
On Sunday 21st February at Northampton SC in the UK with the Club anenometer peaking at 37kn (but a little sheltered apparently) and heinously gusty Chunky let rip down the lake on just three downwind angles. The data looks good;
 
The first (stbd) was failed, with his legs angled the boat bounced and jerked and as the acceleration kicked our ninja warrior was jettisoned off the back, hitting the water at speed.
The second (port) was the big one with a max speed at 28-30 seconds on the vid, with speed peaks of both 23.9kn (27.5mph) and 23.1kn (26.6mph).
The third (stbd) was a higher average and steadier, looking faster in the vid, but topped out at  22.2kn (25.5mph) but with an average of 18.2kn (21mph) for 1minute 15 seconds! [that average is faster than the 2nd best peak speed by Gareth!]
Max heart rate 177bpm!
 
The video clip is here. Make sure you are stable on your chair and pump up the volume; 
 
28 - 30 seconds into the clip is the max speed (max 27.5mph and 26.6mph peaks). 
 
58 seconds in, is the 3rd fastest (looks the quickest, probably the best distance average). 
 
There is a new challenge to everyone!
Who will join Chunky in his new 20kn Club before he gets lonely?
 
First reach blowout vid;
Chunky reports; 'It is a different technique slightly to what I have been used to because if you don't use both the rear toe straps you tend to be angled back too far and get spat out the back. After my first debacle I ended up going to the back straps and hiking straight out. This also enabled a bit more steering control as you aren't hanging out the back of the boat as much. Amazing what you learn in stupid stuff like that eh?'




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22/02/2016 01:06:36

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Lymington, 21st Feb
No big speed to report today. Alex got his first score on the board of 14.5kn, a starter to improve on no doubt. Achieved during racing, wind was initially 22kn gusting 27kn but steadily dropped.
Alex has turned out every Sunday so far this year and was rewarded with a 3rd overall in today's final Perishers race from over 20 starters. With the decision to race or not marginal we had another 'reachathon race' up and down the river.
 
 




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22/02/2016 00:39:39

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Hi Brian, I thought we were serious about this already! We are trying our hardest and now have several scores in the high 17s.
 
We had some good breeze in the UK over this weekend, no big scores to report from Lymington but it sounds like Chunky had bigger breeze up at Northampton and has just landed a big one! More on that soon...
 
Ryan Nelson nearly made it out during the demo sails at San Francisco in 25kn wind on Friday and was suggesting 'going 9'. Unfortunately it passed and they were left with a light breeze.
 
Of course, maybe we are helped in the UK by our dense cool air rather than your hot dry wind in Geelong. It is not called 'heavy airs' in the UK for nothing, most often laden down with various varieties of moisture from damp, dash, deluge, dish, downpour, drenching, driving rain, drizzle, flurry, fog, hammering, mist, mizzle, peas souper, pelting down, pitter-patter, pouring, rain, cats and dogs, sheets, shower, sleat, smizzle, spindrift, spitting, spotting, sprinkling, stair rods, thrashing down, throwing it down to torrential!
 
Lets get some Aussie Speeds up here. They don't have to be records, just personal bests. Give speed in knots, a pic and brief report.




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22/02/2016 00:03:08

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
  Here is Chunky's Valentines day offering; a momentary 33kph = 17.8kn on 14th Feb to take the lead in the Speed Freaks challenge. 
 Later his traveller knot pulled out resulting in a backwards dunking! Make sure you check them and pull them tight with pliers if the tails are short.
 Our Winter Training was at Northampton that weekend, is that them in the background? 
  
 




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19/02/2016 12:37:18

Chunky
Posts: 94
Breeze on again this weekend...
 




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19/02/2016 10:59:09

Brian
Posts: 20
Ok, time to get serious about just how fast these brilliant boats can go. How about an "International Target 20" competition. I think there are some pretty fast Aussie sailors keen on keeping the title down here. 
Have to admit that after receiving a royal whooping by David Rickard at our Nationals we feel we may be a couple of paddocks short of a good farm but in a good stiff breeze we're going to give it a good crack.
Who's up for it? First to 20knots.
Brian Case




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11/02/2016 10:23:48

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Lymington - Sunday 7th Feb
Racing was blown off at both Christchurch and Lymington. None the less three RS Aeros ventured out, AlexNS in his 9 (keen to test his limit!), me in a 7 and Karl in a 5.
 
Over about 80 minutes sailing the top speed on the Garmin Foretrex 401 was 17.5kn.
(I was quite excited to initially see 20.2 until I realised it was still on mph!)
The StatStar app on my iPhone read higher but I will stick with the most conservative! Nice to see the Startstar tracks and when uploaded to Google Earth you can see what speed you where doing where!
 
Wind about 25kn, gusting 30kn. Negligible tide in the entrance to the Lymington river.
 Max speed was produced on a broad reach when a gust would hit and whilst max hiked I would luff as close as I could whilst still being able to keep the boat flat with the power fully on. That luffing would give an extra couple of kn.
 I am 80kg (176lbs) if I had been heavier I could have gone faster (able to sail slightly higher with full power on in a given strong breeze), certainly up to about 100kg (220lbs) I image - so plenty of potential there (that's for heavier sailors, not for me eating!)
 
Thanks to Nigel Brooke for the photo and Geoff and Richard for the rib cover. 
 




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09/02/2016 12:08:14

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Chunky Speed
Our webmaster Anthony 'Chunky' York has had his boat a month and is already producing race results and big speeds. Here is his opening speed, but judging from the way he came past me at the Steve Nicholson Trophy downwind (twice!) there is definitely more to come from Northampton...
(ed; Is there a way to get that readout onto kn, rather than kmh? RichardW had the same issue)
 
Chunky reports;
30kmh = 16.2kn  (Sunday 7th Feb, Northampton)
Playing around in the breeze, trying out telemetry, not perfect sync but not far off. Unfortunately I must have stopped the GPS as it only got part of the first race and not the windy stuff! This is the first time I've taken the gps out with me. It got a lot windier in the last race and was just holding on a couple of reaches which was definitely quicker, so who knows!
RS Aero 7 - Garmin Edge 520 - Go Pro HD Hero 4 Silver - Garmin Virb edit software (this allows you to import your gpx file from your gps and overlays on video).
 




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08/02/2016 01:04:39

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Belated speed report from Christmas...
Ants Haavel of Estonia was out enjoying a mild Autumn at Pirita on the Eastern Baltic, he reports;
 
'Hi, Peter. We are taking max out of climate change. Today (20 Dec) it was unusual 11.5 Celsius and 10-15m/s (19-29kn) SW wind in Pirita. Nice Aero weather. I could sail 3 hours, but wife give me 1.5 to spend on the water. Today I got 16.8 knots (31.2 kmh) speed.' 
 
 
 




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30/11/2015 14:54:48

Andy Butler
Posts: 15
Well done Gareth; it must have been a great sail.  I have very happy memories of racing an Enterprise at Island Barn in a frostbite series in the early 70s.  My recollection is of the wind howling across the water, given that the water is higher than the surrounding rooftops.




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30/11/2015 08:51:44

Gareth
Posts: 109
29 Nov Island Barn. Wind gusting to 40 kn. Might have been even faster if the course had been a shade shyer. Very broad reach, not hiking - in fact trying hard to keep my knees from interfering with steering I was so far back. 17.7 peak on the display.
(ed; Gareth has confirmed his 17.7 is kn, taking him to the top of the leader board!)
 
 
 




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29/11/2015 20:40:11

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Here is my offering from 15th November at Lymington. Not a record but it is my personal best recorded.
Just inside the mouth of the Lymington River at high tide, negligible current, wind about 25kn and gusting just over 30kn occasionally. Sailing with Ben Paton and about 20 tough Lymington Oppies!
29.3km/h = 15.8kn
 




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19/11/2015 16:38:14

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Well done on the 16.8kn Andy! I completely missed this at the time. August was a tad busy!
 
I have re-sized your pic for you (but the speed stayed the same!)... 
To size pics when you are uploading you can chose the width/height. The text screen is about 750 wide. If you want to align it to the right of your text go for about 300-400.
To re-size after posting, click edit, then click on the picture and the picture edit screen will appear with the width/height option.
Be sure to keep the width/height ratio constant, sometimes it works automatically, sometimes not (then you need to do the Maths).
 
Another windy one this weekend.... 
 




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09/08/2015 19:33:17

Andy Butler
Posts: 15
 
16.8 kts.  Sorry, cheesy grin missing, but there was a very cheesy one.  Two week old boat (1635) at Salcombe in breezy but variable conditions on 28th July.  It was shortly before high water neaps so very little tide. 7 rig.
 
P.S. What do I do to reduce the size of the image?  I've resized it in Picture Manager, but it seems to come back the same size in the forum.
 
 




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21/07/2015 20:49:24

Sean Grealish
Posts: 1
         
I had been doing the 29er North Americans in cascade locks last sunday, and decided to take the 7 rig out for a spin after racing was finished to see how the venue would be for North Americans. The wind speed was averaging about 22-23 knots with gusts of 25-27, and the water was relatively flat with only mild chop. Unfortunately I do not have a photo, as you can see in the picture, the tracker cuts out suddenly, this is because I stuffed into a wave and my speed puck reset itself. 
top speed (10 second average): 15.7 knots                                                                max instantaneous speed: 16.2 knots




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07/07/2015 20:37:49

Paul
Posts: 3
15.0 kn - Not sure if this counts - no cheesy grin and picture as data was on phone.
 
 It was a quiet day racing on Wimbleball lake last Sunday when a large squall came through between races. I was with a 7 rig, took off in the squall and then caught a gust inside the squall and the boat kept on going faster. I would guess 25-30 knots wind with the water fairly flat but rapidly developing  lumps. As can be seen from the average speed the rest of the day was something of an anticlimax
 
 




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03/07/2015 20:29:13

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
I lent my GPS to Tom Kennedy of Thorney Island on the Big Saturday of the Lymington event and he clocked in a 14.1kn with his 9 rig.
Obviously no record but non the less a very respectable benchmark with the tide going upwind and creating a nasty chop.




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17/06/2015 11:07:05

Rich Watsham
Posts: 4
The Lymington aero open was great fun. I have to admit the 9 rig in 20kt + breeze is a bit of a handful : )
 
I have been sailing with a Sony AS30V action cam for a while, the bonus feature of this bit of kit is that it also records GPS speed. For some reason I can only get it to give my speed in km/h (I used google to convert to kts). Attached is a screen shot of the video I took on the way out to the start on the saturday.
 
I only managed to get about an hour of footage before I ran out of juice, next time I will remember to fully charge the battery! I think many aeros on the day would have broken the 15 kts barrier, I only managed to get 14.5 kts (26.9 km/h) recorded before the camera died.
 
Leg selfie @ 14.5 kts
 
 
Happy Sailing,
 
Rich Watsham
GBR 1298
 




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02/06/2015 14:27:33

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Working it up....not quite Eric's speed yet but will need a bit more wind and flatter water. No co-pilot this time!
 
Michiel Geerling, RS International Rep, was visiting from Holland and I had arranged for him to join the Lymington Sunday club race in an RS Aero. Sadly with the wind being up and some worsening wind against tide sea state the race was cancelled. We fancied a blast so we went anyway with 7 rigs - and I wanted to practice through a challenging wind against current chop ready for the North American Champs at The Gorge next month!
 
Max Speed; 14.6kn
Rig; RS Aero 7.
Location; Western Solent
Wind; 17kn average, gusting 21kn (Lymington Platform weather station is very nearby).
Sea state; Choppy, wind against tide
Current; Slightly against the tide.
GPS; Garmin Foretrex 401
 




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31/05/2015 14:20:55

Tillerman
Posts: 6
OK. You wanted a selfie of Eric Aker with a cheesy grin. Well this wasn't a selfie and it wasn't the day he set the 15 knot speed record, but it was the day he won the first RS Aero Regatta on the east coast of the United States, at Massapoag  YC near Boston on May 30.
 
 
Photo credit: Annie Pennington 




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30/05/2015 23:36:54

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
I finally remembered my GPS today. Katie and I were 2up and whilst we only managed a mediocre 12.5kn we would like to lay (current) claim to the RS Aero 2up World Speed Record!
We had to visit the Lymington Sea Water Baths first to play on the inflatables as it closed a 5pm and unfortunately the breeze dropped off during that time.
 
Max Speed; 12.5kn
Rig; RS Aero 7.
Location; Lymington River
Wind; 17kn average, gusting 20kn at Lymington platform
Sea State; Small chop, negligible tide
GPS; Garmin Foretrex 401
 
Even with my 26kg skipper onboard we were still lighter than other similar sized dinghies!
Maybe more wind tomorrow...




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25/05/2015 11:05:50

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
ERIC AKER BREAKS 15 KNOT BARRIER
No selfie with cheesy grin and GPS reading, but report and screenshot instead;

Derek Stow comments;
"Eric Aker and I were out sailing our Aeros with 7 rigs on Lake Massapoag near Boston (USA) 20th May on relatively flat water in a gusty, shifty north-westerly after a cold front went through.
Eric had a GPS device on his boat and recorded a maximum speed over 10 seconds of 14.1 knots. Maximum speed over one second was 15.0 knots. Any points in red are 13.0 knots or greater.

The recording device was a Garmin eTrex 10 set to record a track point every second. According to the NOAA 3-day weather history at Norwood Airport (5 miles away) the wind was 17 mph, gusting to 30 mph, at 3:53 PM.

Attached is a screenshot authenticating the maximum speed of 15.0 knots over 1 second."




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07/05/2015 08:58:21

Gareth
Posts: 109
Wish I'd had a speed capture device last night - had the 7 up and there were 35-40 knot gusts going through. When I had the point bit upwards (most of the time) it felt incredibly fast.




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07/05/2015 00:04:33

Chunky
Posts: 94
Sorry Peter, didn't realise i'd missed the ability for you to edit your images, you should now be able to do this.
 
If you have any issues like this, just let me know and i'll get them fixed. 
Chunks 




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06/05/2015 22:51:52

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
Michael O'Brien (1250) is already on the case in Seattle, USA. We were exchanging emails last week and we both had come up with this idea independently!
 
On Monday (May the 4th be with him) he opened the running at a modest 12.4kn, pictured here with his Velocitec Speedpuck.
 
His account is; 'Today was 22 knots at Shilshole, Seattle. Wind from the south with a short, steep chop. Slight flood tide across the course. Doug Stumberger (#1249) and I did a few broad reaches and I clocked 12.4kn.'

Check out his informative blog as he strives to master the Aero at; http://aeronautic.info and you can also send him your pictures and accounts for inclusion there. Mail them to; mob(AT)emobrien.com (change the AT to @)




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06/05/2015 22:31:14

Peter Barton
Posts: 1797
RS Aero International Speed Freaks Challenge
A simple GPS based Speed Competition.
 
All you need is a simple GPS like a Velocitec Speedpuck or Garmin Foretrex 401. Maybe an iPhone app or a bike GPS would work in a waterproof case (can anyone recommend the best app?).
 
All you need to do is get out in some breeze in your RS Aero, record a fully cranking Max Speed. When you get ashore take a selfie of the Max Speed (in Knots) reading with a cheesy grin. Post the photo here, together with a brief summary of the conditions and your adventure. Simple!
 
Don't worry if you are not the fastest. Lets record everyone's 'Personal Best' and you can then re-post every time you improve, logging your progress here.
 
So we can have a fully International Competition without the need to pack up and travel!
 
Remember - without a photo it never happened!
 
*Tips for inserting pics* A photo set '400' wide and aligned to the 'right' works well.  Smaller readouts on other GPSs will need a closer photo, try 'selfie' range.




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