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Home >> Technical >> Vang cleat base dislodged

Update on repair. The epoxy soaked into the wood instead of forming a plug, unintentionally it left a useful pilot hole for the screws. I applied some vaseline to the screws and reinserted them. I have not sailed it yet, but after reassembly the cleat held with maximum tension I could apply, so I am hopeful. If I was to do it again I would try and expand the holes by rotating the drill in the hole to create a cone shape, I would use more epoxy and be more careful about the tape application so no epoxy could leak by. I will also need to seal the top of the screws with mastic.

08/08/2019 10:20:00
BikeMike
Posts: 9

I rotated with new holes on my first boat worked well.

31/07/2019 13:47:00
Gareth
Posts: 176

Hi BikeMike,

Thank you for sharing your experience! We are only 2-3 Areo's in DK so we pretty much depend on sharing experience across borders :)

Your solution sounds better than what I have done. And if my approach fails I'll get a chance to do it your way :)

*** My approach:

I did the following: 1) Clean the holes 2) Let it dry up for 2 days in the summer sun 3) mounting the screws using a wallplug/expander rossett/plastic wall anchor to form a "rosebud" inside the hull 4) Make sure every thing is generously sealed with Sikaflex.

*** Alternate suggestion from a local dealer (I have'nt done this):

1) Seal the old holes 2) turn the base 90 degrees 3) Drill new/fresh holes and mount the vang base with the standard screws.

This will slightly offset the vang cleat from the center of the boat (less than 10 mm) but I don't see how this will have any practical impact.

I'll update this thread if I need to redo my approach :-/

30/07/2019 07:41:00
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I just had the same thing happen last Sunday. Another sailor at our club had repaired an Aero with the same fault and told me how to proceed. I have cleaned out the holes, left it for 24 hours in a hot boat shed to dry out, then turned the hull over. I taped over the holes and injected about 2.5 ml of epoxy resin with a syringe through the tape over each hole and then taped over the small hole left from the syringe needle. The idea is the resin will form a plug.

The guy who advised me said he fitted the screws while the resin was not fully cured so they cut a thread. He also waited for the wood to dry and checked it with a cotton bud. I did not have an opportunity to leave the wood any longer to dry or time to wait around at the sailing club for the resin to cure. I will drill the resin and insert the screws after it has cured and hope it has bonded to the wood.

29/07/2019 22:10:00
BikeMike
Posts: 9

Hi Jonathan,
Thank you for your reply!
You probably right that I should run this by the in country Dealer (I'm based in Denmark).
It didn't cross my mind that the screws (or holes) could have the wrong dimensions.

Mounting the screws in the holes doesn't give huge impression of "grib" ... so I'm slightly concerned the marine ply have been soaked for too long and gotten mushy.

I'll investigate.

For reference I've attached a picture, even though it probably doesn't tell much.

16/07/2019 17:54:00
Posts: 0

Hi Ketil,

This sounds like something that should be taken up with RS Customer Support, or the country agent if outside the UK.

I have an early pre-recessed deck ring boat, and had to fit the above deck ring.

In discussion it transpired that the part of the deck around the mast tube at least has a marine-ply core between the (carbon fibre) laminate; so could take the mounting screws no-problem.

My vang cleat base i found was on the wrong way round, slots pointing forwards not aft, and I changed it around no-problem.

My suspicion with yours is that maybe smaller diameter screws have been used than the size of hole that was pre-drilled?

Have you checked ?

The sealant is there for just that; to keep the hull water-tight, and is used on the deck ring and deck tidy screws just the same.

16/07/2019 09:57:00
Jonathan Rickels
Posts: 108

Sorry Ketil. Sorted. Mike

15/07/2019 16:08:00
Mike0rea
Posts: 58

Hi Mike0rea,

did you post this in the right discussion thread?

/Ketil

15/07/2019 14:08:00
Posts: 0

The base for the vang cleat on my Aero have been dislodged.

It's not the cleat itself, but the base that (should be) screwed into the hull.

It "just happened", and I'm not aware of any excessive force or "accidents" coursing this.
It seems like the screws have lost their grip in the holes in the hull.
The screw holes doesn’t seem to be hard threaded. It looks more like the screws are just based in Sikaflex or some other compound.

Any good advice on the best way to fix this?

Thanks in advance,

Ketil

15/07/2019 08:24:00
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