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Yes! hi Jeremy. We will indeed catch up at the club, be good to put a face to the name. To make things complete, even our berths are only a couple of boats apart.
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21/11/2021 20:28:00
AndyJackson
Posts: 19
I sail a river and pull my boat out on the slipway after each race as it won't stay upright. When I sailed Lasers it was ok leave it moored on the bank with no problem.
The good thing about the Aero is it is easy to recover and launch compared to heavy dinghys.
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21/11/2021 15:42:00
Mark1654
Posts: 13
HI Andy
I think may be "The other guy with an aero" :-) but treat anything I say with caution as I am far from experienced as a sailor and still learning with the Aero.
I launch and recover from the small beach. I tried a jetty launch once - never again! As you found the boat will capsize too easily. Also for recovery the thought of clouting the decking with the bow and causing damage means I keep well clear.
Since I am usually the only one launching from the beach I found that with a decent length painter I can keep the boat in the shallows while manhandling the trolley to just above the water line. It is a bit of a dance between boat and trolley. If you can't get the trolley all the way out (maybe if it is too windy) then someone will usually come along and drag it up as long as they dont have to get their feet wet!
Recovery is easier, as long as you avoid the dagger board on the beach as you come in, just hop out and drop the sail, sort the foils and then grab the trolley. Again, decent length on the painter makes this much easier and avoids grinding the hull on the sand.
If I am doing a follow on race on a Sunday I just leave the boat on the trolley on the beach with the sail down and it only takes a few minutes to hoist the sail get back out on the water again.
Hopefully we'll catch up at the club and you can see my fumbled attempts. And if we are out at the same time it will be very helpful to have another pair of hands.
Jeremy
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I think may be "The other guy with an aero" :-) but treat anything I say with caution as I am far from experienced as a sailor and still learning with the Aero.
I launch and recover from the small beach. I tried a jetty launch once - never again! As you found the boat will capsize too easily. Also for recovery the thought of clouting the decking with the bow and causing damage means I keep well clear.
Since I am usually the only one launching from the beach I found that with a decent length painter I can keep the boat in the shallows while manhandling the trolley to just above the water line. It is a bit of a dance between boat and trolley. If you can't get the trolley all the way out (maybe if it is too windy) then someone will usually come along and drag it up as long as they dont have to get their feet wet!
Recovery is easier, as long as you avoid the dagger board on the beach as you come in, just hop out and drop the sail, sort the foils and then grab the trolley. Again, decent length on the painter makes this much easier and avoids grinding the hull on the sand.
If I am doing a follow on race on a Sunday I just leave the boat on the trolley on the beach with the sail down and it only takes a few minutes to hoist the sail get back out on the water again.
Hopefully we'll catch up at the club and you can see my fumbled attempts. And if we are out at the same time it will be very helpful to have another pair of hands.
Jeremy
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21/11/2021 15:18:00
JeremyH
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Was up at the club today & spoke to one of the professionals. Oddly for a lake club we have a bit of something approaching a beach. The other guy with an aero (who I don't know) launches from there. Means when you come back in you can get in the water, drop the sail and get the trolley. I guess I have to leave the trolley in the water in the first place, which should be ok, and definitely couldn't do on the slipway.
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20/11/2021 19:38:00
AndyJackson
Posts: 19
Absolutely agree - compared with beach start/finish, bringing in to a jetty is a nightmare. The only thing I've found which (sometimes!) stops it falling over is to take the painter over the boom near the gooseneck before tying up before getting trolley. Basically, you cannot leave the boat anywhere in the water without it capsizing, full stop. You definitely need someone on the jetty to help you.
Peter's comment about taking the boat out of the water on the trolley is pretty short-sighted. Clearly he's never had to leave his aero tied up on a jetty while he goes to look for and fetch the trolley.
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Peter's comment about taking the boat out of the water on the trolley is pretty short-sighted. Clearly he's never had to leave his aero tied up on a jetty while he goes to look for and fetch the trolley.
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20/11/2021 15:51:00
malcamp
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20/11/2021 09:00:00
AndyJackson
Posts: 19
Hi Andy,
I think you need to give up on that aspiration, sorry, and simply take the RS Aero out of the water on the trolley. It is pretty easy and light and the gunwale hung trolleys provide a good degree of protection and stability. You could then potentially chose to leave the sail hoisted for short breaks in light winds.
Dropping and re-hoisting the sail on a jetty is troublesome.
Bumping the hull against the jetty too much is not recommended.
Tipping the RS Aero over on the shore or jetty can result in a chafed and perhaps stained sail.
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I think you need to give up on that aspiration, sorry, and simply take the RS Aero out of the water on the trolley. It is pretty easy and light and the gunwale hung trolleys provide a good degree of protection and stability. You could then potentially chose to leave the sail hoisted for short breaks in light winds.
Dropping and re-hoisting the sail on a jetty is troublesome.
Bumping the hull against the jetty too much is not recommended.
Tipping the RS Aero over on the shore or jetty can result in a chafed and perhaps stained sail.
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19/11/2021 23:58:00
Peter Barton
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Hi again from newbie
Tying up at the jetty, it takes seconds for the boat to go over without my weight in it. I can drop the sail, but if I'm going back out again I've found it tough to hoist on the water, not least of all the top halyard cleat needs a pull to the bow. Do people do the 'laser trick' and lie the sail down on the jetty?
Andy 1234
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Tying up at the jetty, it takes seconds for the boat to go over without my weight in it. I can drop the sail, but if I'm going back out again I've found it tough to hoist on the water, not least of all the top halyard cleat needs a pull to the bow. Do people do the 'laser trick' and lie the sail down on the jetty?
Andy 1234
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19/11/2021 14:31:00
AndyJackson
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